tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post5085103632689231492..comments2024-01-05T15:42:46.899-05:00Comments on Katie O'Sullivan ~ Read, Write, Repeat: Writing Wednesday: Quoting Quotes...Katie O'Sullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17295418503546522882noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-69135071600463793582017-09-21T14:59:21.569-04:002017-09-21T14:59:21.569-04:00I am often tempted, but don't want to give too...I am often tempted, but don't want to give too much attribution and get the story off-track, so I rarely use them. I remember the string of song lyrics in novels...I didn't find them helpful and they were often written like poetry, which is so not my thing...I skip over them too! :)Susabellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16028522408918172500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-10284255952792919002017-09-21T13:24:56.131-04:002017-09-21T13:24:56.131-04:00Like everyone here, I enjoy quotes. But they have ...Like everyone here, I enjoy quotes. But they have to add something to the story, and they should be brief. Great subject, Katie.Jana Richardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16624650840243322617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-65286957259291223582017-09-20T23:50:30.135-04:002017-09-20T23:50:30.135-04:00Enjoyed reading your post! I also like quotes, or ...Enjoyed reading your post! I also like quotes, or even partial ones that are well-known. Great for setting and atmosphere, and foreshadowing. I save favorite quotes in a special folder. I found perfect song lyrics to insert into a scene from a contemporary mystery, but after learning how difficult it can be to get permissions, I gave up on that idea and just wrote my own "perfect" lyrics. Cat Dubiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16468996085840675920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-58105939336933014132017-09-20T22:15:30.191-04:002017-09-20T22:15:30.191-04:00I actually like quotes at the beginning of books. ...I actually like quotes at the beginning of books. Nora Roberts used to use Shakespeare a lot in her trilogies, which were my favorites. If there's a reason for them--I like the idea of 2 characters arguing over them--then I don't mind them. But, I'd skip over long lyrics or poems too. As always, love your blog posts! Can I quote you? Ha ha. :) Claire MartiClairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09053502831615206034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-42686418874753781812017-09-20T13:09:50.679-04:002017-09-20T13:09:50.679-04:00I frequently look at quotes to get title ideas. I ...I frequently look at quotes to get title ideas. I take the theme of my story, and try to find quotes that apply to it, and can be adapted into a pithy title! I don't use too many in my books. Like you, I tend to gloss over bits with lyrics or poems, I have to admit! And like Mary Morgan, I'm not sure of the ins and outs of copyright law with regards to using quotes, so I try to avoid it. Although the ending of Love is Lovelier (upcoming book 2 of my Rivers Bend trilogy) does have a song play into the ending. And now that I'm thinking of it, the hero does sing part of one line to the heroine while they're dancing at his sister's wedding. Hmm..maybe I do more with quotes than I thought! Lol!Donna Simonettahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06346368962380325579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-45413523150292999852017-09-20T12:56:51.875-04:002017-09-20T12:56:51.875-04:00I wanted to have my heroine sing (in a performance...I wanted to have my heroine sing (in a performance, gazing at hero as she sang) "Annie's Song" and include a whole verse but had the impression that was a copyright violation, so I used a verse from some cheesy 100-year-old love song instead. Not quite as good, but oh well...<br />In another book I had the hero give the heroine a book of Rumi quotes, and i had them each reading lines from the book that illuminated what they were going through at various stages. I thought Rumi quotes would be out of copyright (since he wrote in the 1400's) but it turns out it was the date of the translation that mattered, not the date of his writing. So I wrote to the translator asking permission and he gave it without charge! <br />Judy Meadows Gabriel<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12465676067298712433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-82634931567087894342017-09-20T12:30:18.530-04:002017-09-20T12:30:18.530-04:00That's pretty cool, Mary! I'm pretty sure ...That's pretty cool, Mary! I'm pretty sure that's what those rock star NA books were doing as well, writing their own song lyrics to quote extensively and in chapter titles, etc. No copyright infringement if you're the author!Katie O'Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17295418503546522882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-4250574716396246912017-09-20T12:28:46.902-04:002017-09-20T12:28:46.902-04:00Shakespeare again :-) He's so awesome.
Have y...Shakespeare again :-) He's so awesome.<br /><br />Have you ever seen Ten Things I Hate About You with Heath Ledger? Modern take on Taming of the Shrew, which mixes the Shakespeare lines right in along with modern dialogue. My favorite quote from the movie is "I know you can be overwhelmed, and underwhelmed, but can you just be whelmed?"Katie O'Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17295418503546522882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-70712594617859259002017-09-20T12:25:04.140-04:002017-09-20T12:25:04.140-04:00LOL, illiterate characters would make it hard to p...LOL, illiterate characters would make it hard to put quotes in their mouths... kind of like my mermaid characters, so I totally get it.Katie O'Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17295418503546522882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-59027833140373834722017-09-20T10:41:37.211-04:002017-09-20T10:41:37.211-04:00Katie, I avoid the troublesome legalities of quote...Katie, I avoid the troublesome legalities of quotes by adding my own at the beginning of each chapter. My mom often will call me to ask who said or wrote my quotes. Of course, I laugh and tell her it's her daughter! I enjoy reading quotes in books, but only if they're brief. Mary Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11999861032120466782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-46398906609513183632017-09-20T10:25:56.717-04:002017-09-20T10:25:56.717-04:00I do use quotes as and when appropriate. In Bad B...I do use quotes as and when appropriate. In Bad Boy, Big Heart, where the heroine's 'name' is K.C., the hero, Chay quotes lines from The Taming of the Shrew in a bantering scene when they first meet, thinking her initials stand for Kate or Katherine. I loved writing that scene, and thought it good banter.Andrea Downinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11553961600937196102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-81963862807735491532017-09-20T10:03:15.555-04:002017-09-20T10:03:15.555-04:00I write historical romance, back in the days when ...I write historical romance, back in the days when few people were literate and most great literary quotes weren't written yet. So, I'd probably be limited in what I could quote. But in contemporary books, I enjoy quotes. I think they add to the story's atmosphere and sense of authenticity. Mary Gillgannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03576518364465232493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-53573120594680480392017-09-20T09:28:33.071-04:002017-09-20T09:28:33.071-04:00Hi Jennifer - you must mean "Of all the gin j...Hi Jennifer - you must mean "Of all the gin joints..." which is such an iconic phrase at this point. Even people who've never seen Casablanca (!!) can quote that Bogart line...Katie O'Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17295418503546522882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-37221285985155405532017-09-20T09:27:31.835-04:002017-09-20T09:27:31.835-04:00Hi Charlotte, and nope, not Eleanor. Although I lo...Hi Charlotte, and nope, not Eleanor. Although I love her famous (and famously memed) quote - "Do One Thing Every Day that Scares You."<br /><br />I loved that Comey quoted Shakespeare - I hate that we have a(nother) president who doesn't read and hasn't studied history....Katie O'Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17295418503546522882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-13914604772445566542017-09-20T09:23:28.061-04:002017-09-20T09:23:28.061-04:00In this age of Pinterest quotes are really the thi... In this age of Pinterest quotes are really the thing. My daughters LOVE them And I do too I also love when an author uses a quote at the beginning of the book it sets me thinking about the story to come. I really loved when former FBI director Comey quoted Shakespeare saying "will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?" Because yeah I like people in leadership who are well read and it really fit the situation. Is the quote from Eleanor Roosevelt on Peggy's Facebook? Charlotteoshayauthor.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17994548860606367251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-91709243359613828992017-09-20T09:01:29.516-04:002017-09-20T09:01:29.516-04:00It depends on the character and the situation. I&#...It depends on the character and the situation. I've used the Casablanca line and a few others when it fits. I like reading them, though!JENNIFER WILCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16218241106543538422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-1891586659345999132017-09-20T08:43:42.804-04:002017-09-20T08:43:42.804-04:00Hi Peggy :-) There are specific rules about limits...Hi Peggy :-) There are specific rules about limits to number of lines you can quote with just an attribution. I edited a book for a friend that quoted musical lyrics, and in cases where there were too many lines (to illustrate her point on cadence or rhyme scheme) she had to find a song that was out of copyright. Robert Burns, for example, is out of copyright (by like a hundred years)Katie O'Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17295418503546522882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6831433709810155834.post-58258713475653046822017-09-20T08:38:51.851-04:002017-09-20T08:38:51.851-04:00I actually read this blog piece before I realized ...I actually read this blog piece before I realized you'd made a comment on my FB page!!! And YES! I love using quotes in my books, in my life, and on my Social media. Sometimes, - most times! - some one else has already put my thought into better words than I can come up with. I love motivation and inspirational quotes the best because I think they are universal in their appeal and assertions. I love that you used the Mice and men quote for your character and story arc. Brilliant!!! SImply brilliant.<br />SOme publishers don't like adding quotes because of copyright laws and having to pay the writer of the quote. But I personally would feel so privileged if someone quoted me, and gave me the attribution, that copyright law be damned ( as long as the person wasn't charging money for the quote!)<br />Anyway - great piece and you certainly have gotten me thinking!!<br />peggy jaegerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09767089116387597036noreply@blogger.com